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Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Started by Eric
Posted: January 16, 2009 at 20:51
Hi All

I was wondering if anyone with ankle fusion had used MBTs to get back into any form of running? I have one fused ankle and just bought a pair. I will try some light running on a treadmill to see how it goes.

I'm also interested in anyone's skiing experiences after an ankle fusion - particularly with getting ski boots modified etc.

Thanks

Eric
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #1 by Beth
Posted: January 18, 2009 at 19:14
No experience with ankle fusion, but here are some exercises with MBTS that helped me a lot and get jogging again after a couple operations:

http://feetfirstfitness.com/article_info.php?articles_id=5
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #2 by john cormack
Posted: February 7, 2009 at 17:16
I had ankle fusion 3 yrs ago ( R ) and 18 months later had a weeks skiing I bought a pair of SCARPA boots with molded inners which I could get into quite easily Skiing was no problem -- sadly now my knee is a wonky and I am not sure about trying again I hope this helps JGC
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #3 by Laurie
Posted: March 3, 2009 at 23:41
I have a fused ankle and have been wearing MBT's daily for years- sandles in the summer and shoes in the winter. My only problem is the clunky look of them. Until I found MBTs I couldn't get a good shoe.

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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #4 by Eric
Posted: March 9, 2009 at 09:03
Thanks for your comments.

I found a ski shop who have some experience of customising boots for people with ankle fusion.

I'll report back if I end up using their services.

In the meantime, I've had a good time with my MBTs - running on a treadmill has been possible and hasn't caused any pain. I've also been doing a regular 4.5 mile walk with no problems.
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Reply #5 by superdosser
Posted: June 3, 2009 at 03:37
I've had a fused ankle for 10 years and love my MBTs. Running - no, I've got a fake hip from the accident as well. But huge walks are easy.
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #6 by Ian
Posted: June 6, 2009 at 21:03
Skiing? I'm 50 and overweight. I used to be a relatively agressive black diamond skier, into my 40s. After a non-skiing accident in 2000, I ultimately had a fusion in 2005, last went skiing in 2008. A few years of inactivity can do it's own damage.

But, I can ski. I prefer carving turns to bumps.. more so now. I use a lose boot on the fused ankle and let the heel come up a bit on hard carved corners. Black diamond corduroy runs, but not bumps, didn't get a chance to try poweder. Although, I suspect powder wouldn't be a problem.
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #7 by Ian
Posted: June 6, 2009 at 21:08
Skiing? I'm 50 and overweight. I used to be a relatively agressive black diamond skier, into my 40s. After a non-skiing accident in 2000, I ultimately had a fusion in 2005, last went skiing in 2008. A few years of inactivity can do it's own damage.

But, I can ski. I prefer carving turns to bumps.. more so now. I use a slightly lose boot on the fused ankle and let the heel come up a bit on hard carved turns. Black diamond corduroy runs, but not bumps, didn't get a chance to try powder. Although, I suspect powder wouldn't be a problem.

GO.. ski.. see how it works out. There's always the hottub. :7)
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Reply #8 by BA
Posted: June 16, 2009 at 21:09
Just had ankle fusion surgery in March 2009 (Right ankle). What type of ski boots work best after surgery?
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Reply #9 by Sandy
Posted: December 12, 2009 at 17:37
I also have a right ankle fusion (with Talus removed). I was advised that the MBT shoe is unsafe with a fused ankle. Risk of 'snapping' ankle because they are unstable? It doesn't soundlike that may be the case.
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Reply #10 by Tracy
Posted: February 12, 2010 at 15:47
I've had a fused ankle for a year and subtalar fusion for 9 years. I'm 37 and want to try skiing or another "extreme" sport again. I can wake board, but do not have the ability or equipment. I'm looking into skiing but do not have my own equipment. Can I ski with rented equipment or will I need to invest in custom boots and bindings?
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Reply #11 by MBT/Ankle fusion/skiing
Posted: September 6, 2010 at 18:42
Tracy,
Did you try skiing? Maybe try rental and see if you like it but in the long run, if you ski regularly, you will want to buy boots that you can get custom fitted to your foot/ankle.

I have had a fused ankle for almost 5 years and ski avidly as well as hike. I have custom made footbeds and liners for my Tecnica boots and it is definitely worth it.

I have stopped wearing my MBT's but need to start again. Hiking and walking without some type of a rocker bottom has ruined my other joints... I'm totally out of whack. Pretty bad knee and back pain. I'll have to get back into wearing funny looking shoes again, it's worth saving my other joints if I want to stay active!
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Reply #12 by brian
Posted: January 3, 2011 at 22:18
I have heard that the problem with the MBT shoes is that they have rocker action both side to side and forward and back. I got a pair od CHUNG SHI shoes they have a rocker that only goes forward and back and eliminates the problem of hurting yourself that has been sited on the MBTs.
I have had a left ankel fusion for 7 years now. I have been an adaptive ski instructor for the past 5 years. There are a few good boots out there that help with the ankel fusion. But befor that the best thing is to find a good boot fitter. The main problem is getting into boots that are thight with out pointing your toes. Think about DaleBoot out of salt lake city if it is your first pair they are comfterble and will help you get back into skiing. if you are looking for an up grade FullTilt boots are a good one. they are the old Riecle company with new owner ship. Both sets of boot are good for the fusion since they open all the way to get your foot in.

I drone on. Hope all this helps.
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Reply #13 by jim
Posted: January 21, 2011 at 17:08
i just had my ankle fused and have started looking for shoes. my dr sent me to a orthopod but the shoes are expensive and ugly +/- $300. as far as i can tell the rocker bottom shoes do the same thing. mbt and others make fairly good looking shoes for less money. any reason not to just buy one of these?

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Reply #14 by Shirley
Posted: January 29, 2011 at 21:15
As a physiotherapist and someone whose ankle is fusing itself from an old ski injury, I would not recommend MBTs for everyone. On "heel strike" your knee will be forced into hyperextension (i.e. forced backwards) so you might wind up having knee problems down the road. This is especially true if you lack the necessary dorsiflexion at the ankle (i.e. foot pulled upwards). Possibly an MBT could be modified so that it does not have the recessed heel component but retains it's rocker ability. I too am wanting to get back into skiing and am looking for boots.
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #15 by steveie
Posted: February 1, 2011 at 20:55
i have a fused ankle after 5 yrs of unsucessful arthroscopies. I was
told running impossible. It's not. MBT's are useless as they force
the knee to lock on the strike. I use expensive cushioned asics.
Worth the money though. Let it heal first. I mean at least 8 to 12
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cardio as you will find this easiest because you will only be using
the balls of you feet. When you run with short strides you will
experience a limp with some knee and hip pain but as you gain
confidence and extend this will subside. Strangely I love running in
army boots (I use British Issue) because the heel helps. Stick to
even ground because jarring the foot will send shockwaves through the
achilles tendon. A wobble board is a good investment because there
will still be side to side movement and this will use fast twitch
muscles to gain extra strength. With trial and error you can develop
a comfortable running style again. Don't be put off the operation
because chances are if you need it then you can't run anyway so what
do you have to lose ? I wish I hadn't spent five years in constant
pain and if I had my time again I'd have had the operation at the
first sign of arthritis. Wishing and hoping it will get better won't
make it so. Good luck ! Be positive !! x
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #16 by john
Posted: March 24, 2011 at 01:29
I am in the US ARMY and I had my ankle fused 8 weeks ago. I am wondering if I will
be able to run again? I also worry that I will walk weirdly or if people will notice that
I have something wrong with my ankle? I plan on staying in the ARMY and my
surgeon tells me it is possible. I guess I am just worried about how this will change
my life and career once it is healed. How is living with an ankle fusion?
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #17 by Jonathan
Posted: April 13, 2011 at 18:08
I had my ankle fused 9 years ago - it had been broken 15 years earlier when playing football. Since then I have had no problem skiing - I got my ski boots from profeet, as mentioned by Eric in reply #4. I also took up jogging 6 years ago and 2 years later did the London marathon (took me a very long time).
Nobody can tell that I have had my ankle fused, I also play tennis and golf (my handicap has come down to 17 - it was 22 when I had the fusion). So if anyone is worried about having it done - relax, it does not stop you doing things. It does stop the pain.
BTW, I am now 62.
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #18 by Steve
Posted: April 14, 2011 at 22:02
I had my talus tibia fused 1.5 years ago just now feeling good enough to walk, have attempted to run but that is pretty ugly, but it sounds like it may be possible with practice. I was told I would need a rocker bottom shoe but they looked wierd and cost allot. When I first started weight bearing I bought the sketchers they worked OK as long as you are on a flat surface. So I said skrew it and bought a good trail shoe and now walk better then before. As far as walking goes I am back to 4+ miles a day with a 30lb pack I am a wildland firefighter and plan to be back on the line in 2011 so 2 years to get back in the saddle. My only regret is I waited until I could barely walk to get the surgery. Living with the fused ankle will take a sence of humor as sometimes you just fall over and don't know why. Good Luck stay positive it will get better.
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Re: Ankle Fusion and running/skiing
Reply #19 by Stan Hales
Posted: May 10, 2011 at 22:37
3 years plus now, everything but running is great, swim, cycle,power walk, climb. Running is possible but the ankle does ache afterwards
you need to learn a martial art as running away from trouble is not on the agenda.
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